Renovations and Removals

[bluesdog]

Although I have managed to retain Adminmenu on my testing/unstable Debian system, I'm wondering if there is any point in keeping any Libranet related stuff, because I suspect it is becoming increasingly non-functional.

I rarely, if ever, even open Adminmenu any more...

Is there any reason I should keep Adminmenu, or any other Libranet-specific packages?

Are there any recommended 'Libranet-specific' removal procedures?

I would even like to remove the green 'Libranet' from the CLI term, but have no idea how to do so.

[stafio]

As much as I never wanted to say this, it looks like a full removal of Libranet may be your best option going forward.

Personally, I'm most likely going to go with the new version of Mepis once it is released. As far as Adminmenu goes, I think all of the features in there will be covered for me by a combination of the Mepis OS Center and Koala.

[fos]

I'm also going to try the new version of Mepis when it is released. I like some things about Ubuntu but not enough to use it on a regular basis. Mepis may have a better setup as they have in the past.

As it stands now, I'm going to go with CentOS when I get my new box built. For me it is the best mix of stability and functions.

fos....

[bluesdog]

I managed to edit /etc/issue, so now the tty CLI text reads: debian, in 'ASCII art', and debian Gnu/Linux testing/unstable in the description.

Now I guess I'll just purge all the Libranet stuff. Nothing seems dependant.

I never noticed any Libranet stuff preventing any upgrades, but I just want to clear out the clutter.

So far I'm content with debian -- mainly testing, although I may install Mepis on another hard disk, just to see what it is like, and so I can determine whether to recommend it to newbies.

Not fond of Ubuntu/Kubuntu, although I administer some ubu-boxen from time to time. It seems too 'dumbed down' or something.

Edit: Sometime later....
Ok. I managed to purge Libranet stuff from the system. There were a couple of things which seemed reluctant:Removing diversion of /etc/hotplug.d/net/ifplugd.hotplug to /usr/lib/adminmenu/ifplugd.hotplug.real by adminmenu
dpkg-divert: rename: rename /usr/lib/adminmenu/ifplugd.hotplug.real to /etc/hotplug.d/net/ifplugd.hotplug: invalid cross-device link
dpkg: error processing adminmenu (--remove):
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
Removing libranet-config
Removing diversion of /etc/bash.bashrc to /usr/share/libranet-config/diversions/_etc_bash.bashrc by libranet-config
dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting /etc/bash.bashrc with different file /usr/share/libranet-config/diversions/_etc_bash.bashrc, not allowed
dpkg: error processing libranet-config (--remove)
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
adminmenu
libranet-config
Not all changes and updates succeeded....To solve these, I first moved /usr/lib/adminmenu/ to a temporary folder, then did the same with /usr/share/libranet-config/dpkg then reported a similar problem with /etc/gdm/Init/. Since I no longer use gdm, I moved the entire gdm folder to a temporary location.
dpkg -P then completed, with a few notices about non-empty libranet directories, which I simply proceeded to remove.

[fos]

I like Debian's operational philosophy - Open source and only open source....

I am impressed with CentOS due to their support for assistive technology. I can do much the same thing with Debian but it is not as up to date as the setup in CentOS 4.3. Ubuntu purportedly has the same thing but doesn't work as well.

I prefer command line interfaces but still use the gui's for the internet when I have a large enough screen and my magnifiers. GRML is a surprising candidate. Oralux has always been the best so far.

fos....

[ryancw]

can one use apt-get with CentOS?

[fos]

apt is available with CentOS

Since CentOS is based on RHEL, rpm and yum are the most commonly used package management.

fos....

[benjaminq]

I am a really happy MEPIS user. If you use KDE as you main desktop it is the ideal starting point: based on Ubuntu LTS, extra icing on the cake, this time it detected just everything out of the box.

If you want to use Debian as a basis: Kanotix is a really really good starting point to do so, just change the pinning to testing and be happy ever after.

But the actual MEPIS runs really really good here. The repositories are well organised, the stability is very good, the hardware detection was grade A (I only had to activate the additional touchpad option in the Xorg.conf to have the scroll buttons work, tapping already out of the box), the PCMCIA WLAN only required typing the ESSID :shock: and all the rest worked out of the box. Nice handling of mass storage devices, no problems with harddisks, mediaplayer, usb-sticks, cameras.

Bluettoth is buggy, the only drawback. I can't sync my phone or read out the smses. Maybe I find a solution ... I am not dependent on this.

If you consider MEPIS or Ubuntu you will want to add the czessi repository for some valuable backports (kaffeine 0.8 rocks again).

# KDE 3.5.3
deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main

## archive.kubuntu.de / archive.czessi.net
# The repository from Kubuntu Germany
# wget http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/kczessi.gpg
# sudo apt-key add kczessi.gpg
deb http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse i18n-de

Mepis ships with KDE 3.5.3, so the fisrt repository is for Ubuntu convenience.

BEnjamin

[fos]

I am definitely going to try Mepis when they come out with a final release.

fos....

[ChuckM]

Geez, here I go again. Had to dump OS2 when they abandoned the end-user program now Libranet. Me thinks I'll go with pure Debian as it has been a constant over the years. Believe it or not, working with LN has made it an easier transision. That forum was the best.

Once that is done, do I stay here with the alumni or drop down to the Debian forum? How do you pronounce Debian anyway. (sigh)


ChuckM

[fos]

Hi Chuck,

It is my intent that this forum will continue to embrace Debian and the Debian philosophy. I hope you find it useful and continue to visit often.

Thanks, Jeff

[sammil]

Chuck,

Stick with us. This forum is slowly but surely gaining momentum. As for Debian... it comes from the names of the founder and his wife. Deborah and Ian Murdoch. Deb-Ian.

As for the Libranet archives, several attempts have been made to convince Tal to release them to Fos. Time will tell.

Edit. In the name of accuracy, it's Murdock.

[fos]

// Edit. In the name of accuracy, it's Murcock.

Sorry, didn't know.

fos....