OT: Chiropractor?

[fos]

Has anyone here ever used a chiropractor? I did back in '78 with poor results. I am having some lower back (L5) degeneration and a respected local chiropractor is suggesting a new treatment called Accu-Spina Internal Disk Decompression System. The local MD just shrugs his shoulders when I describe the pain and numbness.

Comments?

[RedAlpha3]

Yes fos. I have. I go every week.I find it very useful. I am more than happy to supply you with details privately, if you wish.

[fos]

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Pete.

I'm looking through references on the internet. I'm still not convinced that this technique will re-hydrate the damaged disc.

I'm gathering info for awhile. He wants $185 per session three times a week. That's a lot of money on a school teacher's budget. If it would work, it may be worth it.

fos....

[RedAlpha3]

Good Grief! That makes the forty or so dollars I pay per session pale into insignificance!Texas doesn't appear to be a good place to hurt your back!!!

[Leon]

"I feel your pain" literally. Stenosis of the lower three vertebrae here.
I asked my neurologist about chiropractic and was warned that it would do nothing for me at best, and cause even more damage at worst. Of course, I don't have your x-ray or MRI to make a judgment.

My recommendation: find a swimmng pool and do laps. I have developed modified strokes designed to work the lower back. You need muscle tone to support your spinal column. Bent leg situps may help too, but make sure you use a thick pad.

[mdevour]

Back problems can be so debilitating!

I went to a chiropractor for a few years, then quit after I learned some exercises that have pretty much kept me free of back pain or injury ever since. Simple, gentle twisting to the extremes of my freedom of movement, stretches in various directions, all gentle. I often hear my back pop, and can feel the same "lightness" and freedom of movement I get after a chiropractic adjustment. They have helped keep my spine in line and moving well.

Another thing which I keep hearing good things about from people I respect is CMO, or cetylmyristoleate, for problems with connective tissue. Everybody and his brother is hawking it all over the net, and some brands are not effective according to user reports. So getting a good source and unbiased info can be a bit daunting. That said, I've read first-hand reports of good results that hold up long after the treatment is complete.

If you decide to try it, I've got a protocol buried somewhere on one of these machines that gives several things to take along with the CMO that help things heal faster... Let me know and I'll try to dig it up.

Be well,

Mike D.

[fos]

Thanks for the tips Mike, Pete, and Leon,

I'm going to try losing weight, exercise and diet before I invest so much time and money in the chiropractic treatment. I don't really have any choice at this point. :frown:

CMO is new to me. I will check on that at the local and online sources. I had heard of glucosamine-chondroitan for arthritic joint conditions. Maybe the combination of all three?

My weight is probably a big factor. I have gained 50 pounds in the last five or six years. I guess that comes with the slowed metabolism of the mid fifties. Well, I'm going to start skipping ice cream. I think I'll start tomorrow. :smiley4:

Thanks everyone, I'm still in the research mode.

fos....

[mdevour]

CMO is new to me. I will check on that at the local and online sources.
Do a Google search on Harry Diehl. He's the inventor/discoverer.

I'll be interested to see what you find locally. The couple of health food stores I know of around here didn't have it, or it was very expensive. I've looked up some of the brands my contacts have had success with...


EHP Products (Myristin)
Duoflex
Jarrow

Supposedly, animal source CMO is the most reliable.

I had heard of glucosamine-chondroitan for arthritic joint conditions. Maybe the combination of all three?
Yes, those are part of the protocol.

The difference is that the CMO actually permits the body to rebuild cartilage in the joints, so that relief is lasting even once you stop taking the CMO. The glucosamine and chondroitin you have to keep taking forever in order to preserve the benefit.

I just did some digging. The protocol comes from people who did private development and testing and had very good results on some badly degenerated knees. Others have used it and confirmed it's effectiveness on arthritic hip, neck, and back pain. I don't know if anybody has addressed degenerative disk disease specifically, so consider yourself a guinea pig!

This is my best interpretation of the collected reports I have on file:

DISCLAIMER: I'm not a doctor and this isn't to be taken as medical advice. It's all based on anecdotal reports and individual experimentation. It's up to you to research the subject and consult the medical professionals of your choice. Remember, I'm just some clown you ran into on the internet! :smiley8:

For 10 days, take:


6 280 milligram capsules of CMO per day in 3 doses before meals
2000 milligrams of glucosamine sulphate per day
1200 milligrams of Chondroitin per day
10 grams of MSM per day, capsules or powder

Some additional recommendations:


No alcohol while on CMO.

No caffeine while on CMO. If this is impossible for you, separate them by at least a couple of hours.

Make sure you're getting some enzymes from eating fresh, uncooked foods (raw veggies and fruits) at your meals after you take the CMO.

If possible, take the CMO 30 to 45 minutes before the meal.

Use cow's butter as a regular part of your diet, preferably from raw unprocessed milk (if you can get it) for ongoing joint support.

The protocol may take 30 to 60 days to show marked improvement, though improvement is usually noticed much sooner. Healing usually won't begin until after you stop taking CMO, and may continue for as long as 9 months. About 85% of people show lasting improvement from a single course of treatment. Others have needed to repeat the course a second time. So far, the only comment I've seen on failures suggests that about 10% of people don't respond.

There is also a recipe floating around for topical application of CMO that should help with specific achy joints.

I hope that helps. Please let me know the results you get. The feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks! You finally got me to dig this information up! My wife wants to try it for her plantar fasciitis. :smiley4:

Be well,

Mike D.

[fos]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the details. I had found a few items but nothing with as much detail. The inventor's name should be a good lead. I medical study I read stated that it was quite effective with connective tissue regeneration in mice.

Maybe I can be a guinea mouse? :smiley13:

I will definitely post the results. It took a long time to develop the problem, the results may not be immediate.

fo....